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My Secret, Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

By Nagi Maehashi
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Published11 Sep '20 Updated11 May '25
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Unlike traditional buttercream, this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting is silky smooth, much fluffier and far less sweet. The texture is closer to whipped cream, but unlike cream, this Frosting is stable for days. It pipes like a dream, as featured in Vanilla Cupcakes, and is straightforward to make.

Made without icing sugar / powdered sugar, this is actually an old fashioned frosting called “Ermine Frosting”. If you’ve never heard of it before, the ingredients and method will intrigue you!

Close up piping Fluffy Vanilla Frosting onto Vanilla Cupcake

SNAPSHOT: My Secret Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Texture: Light and fluffy. Sits between buttercream and whipped cream, but more towards lightness of whipped cream. 100% smooth.

Sweetness and richness: Much less sweet than buttercream with 60% less sugar. In reality it is quite rich because it uses 225g/2 sticks of butter but it doesn’t taste rich because of the very fluffy, whipped cream-like texture.

Uses: Piped or spread onto cakes and cupcakes, or used in place of cream to dollop onto or on the side.

How it sets: At room temperature, it’s soft and fluffy but firm enough to be piped into tall swirls. In the fridge, it will set and become firmer, but not hard like butter. This frosting does not get a crust.

Storage: Keep covered in airtight container or cake dome. On counter on mild days up to about 22°C/71°F. Refrigerate on warmer days that makes butter melt.

Best served at: room temperature. If too cold, the frosting is firmer than ideal.

My secret Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

I call this my “secret” Vanilla Frosting because it’s not a widely known type of frosting and people are always flabbergasted when I tell them how it’s made using butter, milk, flour and sugar.

It’s my best all-rounder that’s a hit with everyone. Take a classic buttercream, in all its rich, sweet glory, and a lightly sweetened vanilla whipped cream, and this Vanilla Frosting sits squarely in the middle.

But unlike buttercream, it’s 100% silky smooth. And unlike whipped cream which deflates within hours, this Vanilla Frosting will hold a tall piped swirl for days and days.

This looks and pipes like buttercream, but it’s WAY less sweet and rich!

This frosting is actually an old fashioned frosting called Ermine Frosting. Also known as boiled-milk frosting, roux frosting and mock cream, none of these names sound particularly flash nor do they capture the magic of this frosting that has a cult following. Some declare it as the best frosting in the world!

Showing the inside of moist Vanilla cupcakes with vanilla cupcake frosting
Vanilla Cupcake cut open to show plush, tender crumb and how soft this Vanilla Frosting is. Looks like whipped cream but has more structure.

About this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Though the proper name of this frosting is Ermine Frosting, I’m going to continue to call it Fluffy Vanilla Frosting because that’s exactly what it is – and it sounds a lot more flattering than the real name!😂

The method by which it is made will sound highly unusual: hot milk, flour and sugar is cooked on the stove until thickened into a thick custard texture, then once cool it becomes a thoroughly unappetising looking bowl of gluey-jelly which is then whipped into butter.

Making Fluffy Vanilla Frosting - Ermine Frosting

And this is when the ugly duckling transforms into a beautiful swan. Because suddenly, you’re staring into a bowl of what looks like whipped cream. Except….. you haven’t used cream at all. You touch it and know that it’s firm enough to pipe into sky-high swirls. You taste it, and it’s silky smooth. A cross between buttercream and whipped cream!

Bowl of whipped Fluffy Vanilla Frosting - Ermine Frosting

What you need for this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

All you need is butter, flour, milk, sugar and vanilla. Flour?? I hear you query. YES. That is what thickens this into a frosting texture. I promise you will not detect even the faintest bit of flour once finished – not in texture and certainly not taste.

Ingredients in Fluffy Vanilla Frosting - Ermine Frosting

How to make my secret Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

First, we make the roux. It’s just like how we start creamy-sauce savoury foods like Mac and Cheese – except it’s sweet, and we take it much further until it’s very thick.

How to make Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

  1. Milk, sugar, flour – Stir the sugar and flour in a dry saucepan over medium heat – this just toasts the sugar lightly to bring out some flavour. Then slowly pour the warm milk in as you whisk (this avoids lumps)

  2. Cook over medium heat until it thickens in a thick dolloping custard. The range of thickness possible is actually quite broad – I’ve made it way thicker and it still worked perfectly. In fact, the frosting holds its structure longer, and it pipes with sharper, more defined edges even though it is just as fluffy. Just don’t take it off when it’s still watery. 

  3. Scrape it into a bowl (“it” being a roux);

  4. Cover roux with cling wrap, pressing onto the surface to prevent a skin from forming (or use paper if you’re plastic adverse) then very importantly, allow to fully cool otherwise it will melt the butter. It will become like a thick, pasty, thoroughly unappetising jelly and at this stage you will start doubting me. Have faith!

Cooling the roux / making ahead – I usually cool on counter for 20 minutes then refrigerate for 30 minutes or so to speed things up but don’t let it get fridge cold because otherwise it won’t mix together well with the room temp butter (because the temperatures are too different). You can also leave it overnight in the fridge but take it out about 1 hour prior to dechill it and bring to room temperature.

Now, we whip it up like any other frosting.

How to make Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

5. Beat butter until creamy – just for a couple of minutes. We don’t need it to become aerated because we will be whipping the combined mixture like you do whipped cream and at this stage it will fluff up more;

6. Add dollops of the roux, beating as you go. Take about 1 minute to add all the roux in, this will ensure your Frosting stays smooth;

7. Beat, beat, beat – Add vanilla and a pinch of salt for flavour, then beat for another 2 to 3 minutes, just like you’re whipping up a big bowl of cream; and

8. Voila! Your Fluffy Vanilla Frosting is done!

Vanilla cupcakes with buttercream vanilla cupcake frosting

How to use this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Spreading and piping

Spread it onto cakes (like Vanilla Cake) and cupcakes  Vanilla Cupcakes or Chocolate Cupcakes).

Or transfer to a piping bag and pipe sky-high swirls, as pictured throughout this post (Wilton 2D tip).

In fact, this frosting was the traditional frosting used for Red Velvet Cake! It was only in modern times that cream cheese frosting became the frosting of choice for Red Velvet.

You can pipe sky-high mounds of this frosting onto cupcakes, and you won’t find it sickly sweet like with buttercream!

Flavours and colouring

Treat it like your everyday buttercream – this frosting can be tinted and flavoured with concentrated flavouring.

To make it Chocolate flavoured, just whip in 1/4 cup cocoa powder at end. Melted chocolate doesn’t work as well because it weighs it down.

Note: I haven’t tried using fresh citrus like lemon, lime and orange to ensure it doesn’t split.

Storage

The butter in this frosting will require refrigeration if the temperature is warm enough for the butter to start softening – this causes the frosting to droop. I find that up to about 23°/73°F, this frosting is fine out on the counter.

If you are forced to refrigerate, make sure you take cakes out 1 1/2 hours prior to serving and cupcakes out 1 hour prior so they come to room temperature. The frosting firms up in the fridge (because the butter goes hard) which is not very pleasant to eat! You need the frosting to come to room temperature so it’s creamy and soft again. It will soften faster than fridge-cold butter because the fridge-cold frosting is not as hard as butter.

Vanilla Cupcakes with Vanilla Swiss Meringue Buttercream
Vanilla Cupcakes with Fluffy Vanilla Frosting topped with fresh raspberry

So, now you know my secret frosting recipe. 🙂 I’ve been making it for years, relishing in how people who ordinarily shy-away from sky high mounds of frosting have dived into it after I assured them that it’s way less sweet and rich than typical frostings.

Tell me what you think if you try it! – Nagi x


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Close up piping Fluffy Vanilla Frosting onto Vanilla Cupcake

My Secret Less-Sweet, Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Author: Nagi
Prep: 20 minutes mins
Cook: 10 minutes mins
Frosting, Icing, Sweet
Western
4.97 from 352 votes
Servings12
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Recipe video above. This is actually an old fashioned frosting called Ermine Frosting that was traditionally used for Red Velvet Cake. Though not widely known, many consider it far superior to buttercream because its 100% silky smooth, far less sweet and much fluffier – which means you can pipe sky high mounds onto cupcakes and it won't be sickly sweet.
The texture is like whipped cream but slightly more dense. But while whipped cream deflates within hours, this frosting will hold its shape for days!
Don't be turned off by the flour – you absolutely cannot taste it at all.
Makes enough to frost 12 cupcakes generously with tall swirls (pictured), or 24 cupcakes swirled on with a knife, or a two or three layer 20 – 23cm/8-9" cake.

Ingredients

  • 5 tbsp flour , plain/all purpose
  • 1 cup white sugar , regular/granulated (can reduce to 1/2 cup, Note 1)
  • 1 cup milk, warmed using any method , full fat best (but even 0% fat works)
  • 1 1/2 tsp vanilla extract
  • Pinch of salt
  • 225g / 1 cup unsalted butter , softened but not too soft! (Note 3)

Chocolate Frosting option:

  • 1/4 cup cocoa powder, unsweetened (Dutch processed best, if you can)
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Instructions

Thickening Roux:

  • Place flour and sugar in a large saucepan over medium heat. Cook, stirring constantly, for 30 seconds.
  • While whisking constantly, slowly pour the milk in (this ensure it’s lump free).
  • As the milk gets hotter, it will start to thicken – stir constantly so the base doesn’t catch.
  • Cook until the mixture thickens in a thick, dolloping custard – see video for texture. TIP: Thicker texture = thicker frosting texture but won't make the frosting dense, it's still fluffy and spreadable but it just makes it "sturdier" with sharper edges when piped.
  • Remove from heat and scrape into a bowl. Cover with cling wrap, pressing down onto the surface to prevent a skin from forming.
  • Cool completely (I leave on counter for 20 min or so then refrigerate 30 min to speed up but don't let it get chilled, best at room temp to beat into butter). You can leave in fridge overnight but take it out 1 hour prior to using (to dechill – otherwise it won't mix well with softened butter).

Making the Fluffy Frosting:

  • Place butter in a bowl and use either a handheld beater or stand mixer (with whisk attachment) to beat for 3 minutes until it's smooth and changes from yellow to very pale yellow, almost white.
  • Now start whipping in the Thickening Roux. On speed 5 (medium), start adding the thick roux one heaped tablespoon at a time. Take about 1 minute to add it all.
  • Once all added, add vanilla and salt, then whip for 2 to 3 minutes until you can see that it is still enough to hold peaks. Then it's ready to use!

Chocolate flavoured option:

  • Beat in the cocoa powder at the end, just until mixed through.

Frosting cakes and cupcakes:

  • Use it like any other frosting on cakes and cupcakes – either spread it on with a knife or put in a piping bag. You can pipe sky-high mounds and it will hold its form, as pictured on Vanilla Cupcakes in this post.
  • See notes for storage / make ahead.

Recipe Notes:

1. Sugar – caster/superfine ok too. 1 cup sugar yields a sweet frosting but not overly sweet like buttercream which uses about 2.5 – 3 cups equivalent. Can reduce to as little as 1/2 cup – then this really does taste like a lightly sweetened whipped cream!
 2. Whiteness – it will depend on the colour of your butter. Economical butter tends to be more yellow so the frosting will have an off white colour. European butters (such as Lurpak) are paler so the frosting will be closer to white. The butter whipping stage will lighten the colour of the butter.
Whitening – if you really want pure white, you can purchase a frosting whitener like this one from Wilton and also get clear imitation vanilla essence but the flavour isn’t as good and pure as vanilla extract.
The other trick is to add tiny drops of blue or purple into the frosting. These colours are opposite yellow on the colour wheel so they will offset the yellow tinge. For liquid colouring, use a tiny drop at a time. For gel (more intense), dip a toothpick in and wipe onto the frosting surface.
Frosting can also be tinted – it’s like a really fluffy buttercream, so anything you can do to colour / flavour buttercream, you can do with this frosting!
3. Softened Butter – this is butter that is at 17°C/63°F, which is cooler than you might expect! It should be soft enough that it is pliable so when you poke it, it leaves an indent. But still cool enough so that you don’t end up with shiny grease your your finger.
If your butter gets too soft, the frosting will be too sloppy, the same problem you’d run into with any butter based frosting like buttercream frosting.
4. Storage & make ahead:
  • This frosting is best used straight after making. 
  • On cooler days (22C/71F or so), frosted cakes, cupcakes etc can stay out on the counter.
  • On warmer days, it will need to be refrigerated – the butter is what will make the frosting droop. Take out of fridge 1 – 1.5 hrs before serving to bring so the frosting can soften (it firms up in the fridge due to the butter).
  • The flour milk roux can be made the day before and refrigerated overnight, but then take it out of the fridge 1 hour prior to take the chill out of it, you want it at room temperature.
  • Freezing – up to 3 months, thaw overnight in the fridge
5. Recipe source: I cannot remember where I first obtained this recipe (it was over 10 years ago) but I cross checked my usual recipe resources before publishing it and this recipe uses the same quantities as the New York Times Ermine Frosting, but a slightly different method. (Note: that’s a paid resource though you can view limited pages for free)
6. Nutrition assuming 12 servings (as pictured in post – tall swirls!). Frosting only.

Nutrition Information:

Calories: 224cal (11%)Carbohydrates: 20g (7%)Protein: 1g (2%)Fat: 16g (25%)Saturated Fat: 10g (63%)Cholesterol: 42mg (14%)Sodium: 11mgPotassium: 35mg (1%)Fiber: 1g (4%)Sugar: 18g (20%)Vitamin A: 502IU (10%)Calcium: 27mg (3%)Iron: 1mg (6%)
Keywords: Boiled Milk Frosting, Ermine Frosting, Fluffy Vanilla Frosting, Smooth Frosting
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1,323 Comments

  1. Lindsay says

    January 28, 2024 at 4:27 pm

    5 stars
    Delicious frosting!! I hate overly sweet frosting so I was looking for a light frosting like this! Great directions that were easy to follow. I’m not a baker but my daughters birthday cupcakes turned out great! Thank you!!

    Reply
  2. Hardeep says

    January 28, 2024 at 6:17 am

    Hi! I just made the buttercream but it isn’t very stiff like yours. Anyway I can stiffen it?

    Reply
  3. Mariette says

    January 27, 2024 at 4:19 pm

    5 stars
    Has anyone tried to flavour this with the suggested “buttercream flavourings” in Nagi’s cookbook? I noticed she mentioned not to add melted chocolate to this icing but what about salted caramel?

    Reply
    • Amina says

      June 9, 2024 at 2:31 am

      I tried it but it didn’t get as firm or pipe able. Any ideas what I need to change?

      Reply
  4. Mary A says

    January 23, 2024 at 4:54 pm

    Your recipes are life changing for me.. they are keepers. I will not stop using them, I heart you.

    Reply
  5. Ann says

    January 23, 2024 at 5:17 am

    5 stars
    I tried a similar recipe before and was not crazy about the taste, but thinking about it, can do some things to help it taste better.
    I use Kroger butter, but it lacks true butter flavor, so a European ot Irish butter would be better.
    Irish cream would be good with the butter, could use coffee creamers for some of or all of milk minus some sugar since its sweet.
    I only use organic pure cane sugar, so I use the organic powder sugar instead for less browning.
    Could add little cream cheese, marciano cherry juice with chopped cherries. Just some ideas 😊

    Reply
  6. Lisa Dykstra says

    January 22, 2024 at 10:34 am

    Any advice on what to use instead of flour for gluten-free people? Potato starch, maybe?

    Reply
    • Susan says

      April 25, 2024 at 1:20 pm

      So many gluten-free things are out there now. Look in the gluten-free section or with the flour. King Arthur brand is priced fairly and not going to require a high interest grocery loan.

      Reply
    • Wesley says

      February 11, 2024 at 10:54 am

      Gf flour works so does corn starch or tapioca powder

      Reply
    • Sarah says

      January 30, 2024 at 1:10 am

      I’ve tried to make this with gluten free flour (King Arthur or similar 1:1 sub) and do NOT recommend. It whips up just fine and looks okay but has a grainy/gritty texture that was unappealing. I haven’t tried potato starch.

      Reply
  7. Matty says

    January 18, 2024 at 3:19 pm

    Tried it out and turned out great. This was on the sweeter side for our family. Imagine if I had done the traditional American buttercream. But anyways, this is great recipe for anyone who is looking for a less sweet version. I was able to frost the cake with no challenges.

    Reply
  8. Paula Wood says

    January 16, 2024 at 1:53 pm

    5 stars
    Can this recipe be doubled?

    Reply
    • Estela Walker says

      June 4, 2024 at 9:52 am

      5 stars
      Yes, it can. I tried this recipe for the first time and doubled it with no problems.

      Reply
    • Barb Newton says

      March 6, 2024 at 4:52 am

      I double this on a regular basis. I was actually looking through the comments to see if anyone had tried tripling it.

      Reply
    • Shelley says

      February 8, 2024 at 11:06 am

      I doubled this without any issues.

      Reply
  9. Amber says

    January 14, 2024 at 5:49 pm

    Wow so many positive comments! Can someone tell me whether they have used the frosting for piping flowers and leaves and if they held their shape please.

    Reply
    • JessG says

      April 27, 2024 at 1:45 am

      5 stars
      I have used this icing to pipe flowers and leaves (sunflowers, hydrangeas, simple rose swirls, short dahlias). Caution, they will droop in warm environment. I wasn’t able to get super-fine petals. So, no ‘tall’ flowers like blooming roses, peonies… Hope this helps.

      Reply
  10. Amber Ranelle Snow says

    January 14, 2024 at 5:42 pm

    Wow so many positive comments! Can someone tell me whether they have used the frosting for piping flowers and leaves and if they held their shape please.

    Reply
    • Bronnie says

      July 3, 2024 at 1:34 pm

      This is insane icing. Sooo much better than buttercream and way easier to use. If you reduce the sugar, I did, it does taste a lot more ‘buttery’ so I ended up adding back in some icing sugar at the end. Made this a few times now and it’s great. Don’t use vanilla essence though, use extract or paste or it can make icings ‘split’. And not too much either if you’re a ‘guestimator’. Thanks for another great recipe.

      Reply
    • Steph G says

      February 26, 2024 at 9:07 pm

      I piped swirls and roses and the frosting stays firm. Just make sure you make the initial ‘custard’ as gluggy as Nagi says. Mine was like thick wallpaper paste when cooled before adding the butter!

      Reply
  11. Sam says

    January 14, 2024 at 7:52 am

    5 stars
    This was the best frosting I have ever made – such a great recipe!! Will definitely be using this more often 🙂

    Reply
  12. Catherine Sharp says

    January 14, 2024 at 4:56 am

    The jury’s out for me on this recipe. I so wanted it to work because normal butter cream is definitely too sweet.
    The ‘custard’ part worked well and I set it aside to cool. However, after softening the butter and adding the custard slowly, the mixture split and no amount of beating or adding some icing sugar brought the mixture back together again. Not sure what I did wrong. Was really careful with the temperature of the butter and the custard. I would like to try it one more time because it tastes good, just doesn’t look good.

    Reply
    • Rachel says

      April 18, 2024 at 3:37 pm

      Did you try to colour it by any chance? We made this for a bday cake in November and it was perfect until we added food colour, both oil and water based caused it to split 🤔

      Reply
    • Julie says

      February 2, 2024 at 6:47 am

      It also happened to me where it split. The only thing I could think of is custard was not cold enough. Tastes great but looks awful. Will try it again.

      Reply
    • Sarah says

      January 30, 2024 at 1:16 am

      I’ve made this type of frosting for years and actual do it backwards. I whip the cream/roux mixture and dollop in the butter about a tablespoon at time. You can increase the amount you dollop in as you go. You can also try refrigerating it for 10-15 minutes and then trying again. It’ll look worse before it gets better and then boom, it’ll come together.

      Reply
  13. Candice says

    January 13, 2024 at 9:08 am

    5 stars
    Wow this turned out great! I have an old family recipe that is similar to this one and I could never get it right. This was easy and delicious! I was skeptical of it frosting a whole cake, as it didn’t look like much at first, but I was wrong. I was able to frost 8in round cake (2 layers) with no problem! Also, did I mention it’s delicious?! A nice break from the usual buttercream. Will make again and again! Thanks for sharing!

    Reply
  14. RickJ says

    January 10, 2024 at 9:23 am

    Have you tried to add peanut butter to this recipe to create a light peanut butter frosting?

    Reply
  15. RickJ says

    January 10, 2024 at 9:21 am

    Everyone loved this frosting! I added 1/4 cup strawberry preserves to the butter to make a strawberry frosting. It was Delicious!

    Reply
  16. Panther says

    January 8, 2024 at 8:16 am

    How many cups of frosting does this make?

    Reply
  17. Jo Anne Faas says

    January 8, 2024 at 7:43 am

    Wow!!!
    This is amazing icing. Almost identical to my Mom’s recipe.
    Similar to ladylock filling.
    I find buttercream to be sickening sweet. Whipped cream icing is just horrible.
    This takes cake to the next level.

    Reply
  18. Lisa Parise says

    January 6, 2024 at 10:32 am

    5 stars
    I have used this recipe several times and every single time it is a MASSIVE hit! I even add a little almond extract for some of the vanilla for a little extra kick from time to time! I have never once had anyone so happy and amazed by icing as when I use this recipe… now it’s the only way I do it! I LOVE IT! Thank you for sharing this wonderful recipe!

    Reply
  19. Laura says

    January 5, 2024 at 12:13 pm

    5 stars
    Love the technique for this frosting. Cooking the sugar with the flour is so smart!

    Reply
  20. Margaret says

    January 5, 2024 at 11:15 am

    This recipe did anything but work. I will never use this recipe again!!

    Reply
    • Sarah says

      January 30, 2024 at 1:18 am

      It’s a tricky one for sure but don’t give up! Try it again and make sure your butter isn’t TOO soft or try whipping them together in an ice bath (whipping bowl nesting in a larger bowl with ice water). It’s worth it!

      Reply
    • Mary A says

      January 23, 2024 at 4:56 pm

      you did it wrong.

      Reply
      • Tiffany says

        February 15, 2024 at 5:41 pm

        5 stars
        LMAO… harsh but it’s true though. I would guess failure came from not cooling the custard part enough, overly softened butter or the mistake of trying to dye it. Mine came out perfectly. My butter was on the edge of what I thought was too hard, but turns out that’s perfect for the recipe. My room temperature is 67 F, which is 19.5 c. I only left it out at that temperature for the time it took to make the custard and cool the custard and brownie to be iced to room temperature, about 2 hours. I could just barely poke my finger in to indent the butter. I think butter being much softer would have caused failure.

        Reply
    • Lisa finnis says

      January 12, 2024 at 1:43 am

      Best frosting recipe EVER. I use it all the time

      Reply
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