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My Secret, Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

By Nagi Maehashi
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Published11 Sep '20 Updated11 May '25
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Unlike traditional buttercream, this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting is silky smooth, much fluffier and far less sweet. The texture is closer to whipped cream, but unlike cream, this Frosting is stable for days. It pipes like a dream, as featured in Vanilla Cupcakes, and is straightforward to make.

Made without icing sugar / powdered sugar, this is actually an old fashioned frosting called “Ermine Frosting”. If you’ve never heard of it before, the ingredients and method will intrigue you!

Close up piping Fluffy Vanilla Frosting onto Vanilla Cupcake

SNAPSHOT: My Secret Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Texture: Light and fluffy. Sits between buttercream and whipped cream, but more towards lightness of whipped cream. 100% smooth.

Sweetness and richness: Much less sweet than buttercream with 60% less sugar. In reality it is quite rich because it uses 225g/2 sticks of butter but it doesn’t taste rich because of the very fluffy, whipped cream-like texture.

Uses: Piped or spread onto cakes and cupcakes, or used in place of cream to dollop onto or on the side.

How it sets: At room temperature, it’s soft and fluffy but firm enough to be piped into tall swirls. In the fridge, it will set and become firmer, but not hard like butter. This frosting does not get a crust.

Storage: Keep covered in airtight container or cake dome. On counter on mild days up to about 22°C/71°F. Refrigerate on warmer days that makes butter melt.

Best served at: room temperature. If too cold, the frosting is firmer than ideal.

My secret Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

I call this my “secret” Vanilla Frosting because it’s not a widely known type of frosting and people are always flabbergasted when I tell them how it’s made using butter, milk, flour and sugar.

It’s my best all-rounder that’s a hit with everyone. Take a classic buttercream, in all its rich, sweet glory, and a lightly sweetened vanilla whipped cream, and this Vanilla Frosting sits squarely in the middle.

But unlike buttercream, it’s 100% silky smooth. And unlike whipped cream which deflates within hours, this Vanilla Frosting will hold a tall piped swirl for days and days.

This looks and pipes like buttercream, but it’s WAY less sweet and rich!

This frosting is actually an old fashioned frosting called Ermine Frosting. Also known as boiled-milk frosting, roux frosting and mock cream, none of these names sound particularly flash nor do they capture the magic of this frosting that has a cult following. Some declare it as the best frosting in the world!

Showing the inside of moist Vanilla cupcakes with vanilla cupcake frosting
Vanilla Cupcake cut open to show plush, tender crumb and how soft this Vanilla Frosting is. Looks like whipped cream but has more structure.

About this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Though the proper name of this frosting is Ermine Frosting, I’m going to continue to call it Fluffy Vanilla Frosting because that’s exactly what it is – and it sounds a lot more flattering than the real name!😂

The method by which it is made will sound highly unusual: hot milk, flour and sugar is cooked on the stove until thickened into a thick custard texture, then once cool it becomes a thoroughly unappetising looking bowl of gluey-jelly which is then whipped into butter.

Making Fluffy Vanilla Frosting - Ermine Frosting

And this is when the ugly duckling transforms into a beautiful swan. Because suddenly, you’re staring into a bowl of what looks like whipped cream. Except….. you haven’t used cream at all. You touch it and know that it’s firm enough to pipe into sky-high swirls. You taste it, and it’s silky smooth. A cross between buttercream and whipped cream!

Bowl of whipped Fluffy Vanilla Frosting - Ermine Frosting

What you need for this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

All you need is butter, flour, milk, sugar and vanilla. Flour?? I hear you query. YES. That is what thickens this into a frosting texture. I promise you will not detect even the faintest bit of flour once finished – not in texture and certainly not taste.

Ingredients in Fluffy Vanilla Frosting - Ermine Frosting

How to make my secret Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

First, we make the roux. It’s just like how we start creamy-sauce savoury foods like Mac and Cheese – except it’s sweet, and we take it much further until it’s very thick.

How to make Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

  1. Milk, sugar, flour – Stir the sugar and flour in a dry saucepan over medium heat – this just toasts the sugar lightly to bring out some flavour. Then slowly pour the warm milk in as you whisk (this avoids lumps)

  2. Cook over medium heat until it thickens in a thick dolloping custard. The range of thickness possible is actually quite broad – I’ve made it way thicker and it still worked perfectly. In fact, the frosting holds its structure longer, and it pipes with sharper, more defined edges even though it is just as fluffy. Just don’t take it off when it’s still watery. 

  3. Scrape it into a bowl (“it” being a roux);

  4. Cover roux with cling wrap, pressing onto the surface to prevent a skin from forming (or use paper if you’re plastic adverse) then very importantly, allow to fully cool otherwise it will melt the butter. It will become like a thick, pasty, thoroughly unappetising jelly and at this stage you will start doubting me. Have faith!

Cooling the roux / making ahead – I usually cool on counter for 20 minutes then refrigerate for 30 minutes or so to speed things up but don’t let it get fridge cold because otherwise it won’t mix together well with the room temp butter (because the temperatures are too different). You can also leave it overnight in the fridge but take it out about 1 hour prior to dechill it and bring to room temperature.

Now, we whip it up like any other frosting.

How to make Less-Sweet Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

5. Beat butter until creamy – just for a couple of minutes. We don’t need it to become aerated because we will be whipping the combined mixture like you do whipped cream and at this stage it will fluff up more;

6. Add dollops of the roux, beating as you go. Take about 1 minute to add all the roux in, this will ensure your Frosting stays smooth;

7. Beat, beat, beat – Add vanilla and a pinch of salt for flavour, then beat for another 2 to 3 minutes, just like you’re whipping up a big bowl of cream; and

8. Voila! Your Fluffy Vanilla Frosting is done!

Vanilla cupcakes with buttercream vanilla cupcake frosting

How to use this Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Spreading and piping

Spread it onto cakes (like Vanilla Cake) and cupcakes  Vanilla Cupcakes or Chocolate Cupcakes).

Or transfer to a piping bag and pipe sky-high swirls, as pictured throughout this post (Wilton 2D tip).

In fact, this frosting was the traditional frosting used for Red Velvet Cake! It was only in modern times that cream cheese frosting became the frosting of choice for Red Velvet.

You can pipe sky-high mounds of this frosting onto cupcakes, and you won’t find it sickly sweet like with buttercream!

Flavours and colouring

Treat it like your everyday buttercream – this frosting can be tinted and flavoured with concentrated flavouring.

To make it Chocolate flavoured, just whip in 1/4 cup cocoa powder at end. Melted chocolate doesn’t work as well because it weighs it down.

Note: I haven’t tried using fresh citrus like lemon, lime and orange to ensure it doesn’t split.

Storage

The butter in this frosting will require refrigeration if the temperature is warm enough for the butter to start softening – this causes the frosting to droop. I find that up to about 23°/73°F, this frosting is fine out on the counter.

If you are forced to refrigerate, make sure you take cakes out 1 1/2 hours prior to serving and cupcakes out 1 hour prior so they come to room temperature. The frosting firms up in the fridge (because the butter goes hard) which is not very pleasant to eat! You need the frosting to come to room temperature so it’s creamy and soft again. It will soften faster than fridge-cold butter because the fridge-cold frosting is not as hard as butter.

Vanilla Cupcakes with Vanilla Swiss Meringue Buttercream
Vanilla Cupcakes with Fluffy Vanilla Frosting topped with fresh raspberry

So, now you know my secret frosting recipe. 🙂 I’ve been making it for years, relishing in how people who ordinarily shy-away from sky high mounds of frosting have dived into it after I assured them that it’s way less sweet and rich than typical frostings.

Tell me what you think if you try it! – Nagi x


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Close up piping Fluffy Vanilla Frosting onto Vanilla Cupcake

My Secret Less-Sweet, Fluffy Vanilla Frosting

Author: Nagi
Prep: 20 minutes mins
Cook: 10 minutes mins
Frosting, Icing, Sweet
Western
4.97 from 353 votes
Servings12
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Recipe video above. This is actually an old fashioned frosting called Ermine Frosting that was traditionally used for Red Velvet Cake. Though not widely known, many consider it far superior to buttercream because its 100% silky smooth, far less sweet and much fluffier – which means you can pipe sky high mounds onto cupcakes and it won't be sickly sweet.
The texture is like whipped cream but slightly more dense. But while whipped cream deflates within hours, this frosting will hold its shape for days!
Don't be turned off by the flour – you absolutely cannot taste it at all.
Makes enough to frost 12 cupcakes generously with tall swirls (pictured), or 24 cupcakes swirled on with a knife, or a two or three layer 20 – 23cm/8-9" cake.

Ingredients

  • 5 tbsp flour , plain/all purpose
  • 1 cup white sugar , regular/granulated (can reduce to 1/2 cup, Note 1)
  • 1 cup milk, warmed using any method , full fat best (but even 0% fat works)
  • 1 1/2 tsp vanilla extract
  • Pinch of salt
  • 225g / 1 cup unsalted butter , softened but not too soft! (Note 3)

Chocolate Frosting option:

  • 1/4 cup cocoa powder, unsweetened (Dutch processed best, if you can)
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Instructions

Thickening Roux:

  • Place flour and sugar in a large saucepan over medium heat. Cook, stirring constantly, for 30 seconds.
  • While whisking constantly, slowly pour the milk in (this ensure it’s lump free).
  • As the milk gets hotter, it will start to thicken – stir constantly so the base doesn’t catch.
  • Cook until the mixture thickens in a thick, dolloping custard – see video for texture. TIP: Thicker texture = thicker frosting texture but won't make the frosting dense, it's still fluffy and spreadable but it just makes it "sturdier" with sharper edges when piped.
  • Remove from heat and scrape into a bowl. Cover with cling wrap, pressing down onto the surface to prevent a skin from forming.
  • Cool completely (I leave on counter for 20 min or so then refrigerate 30 min to speed up but don't let it get chilled, best at room temp to beat into butter). You can leave in fridge overnight but take it out 1 hour prior to using (to dechill – otherwise it won't mix well with softened butter).

Making the Fluffy Frosting:

  • Place butter in a bowl and use either a handheld beater or stand mixer (with whisk attachment) to beat for 3 minutes until it's smooth and changes from yellow to very pale yellow, almost white.
  • Now start whipping in the Thickening Roux. On speed 5 (medium), start adding the thick roux one heaped tablespoon at a time. Take about 1 minute to add it all.
  • Once all added, add vanilla and salt, then whip for 2 to 3 minutes until you can see that it is still enough to hold peaks. Then it's ready to use!

Chocolate flavoured option:

  • Beat in the cocoa powder at the end, just until mixed through.

Frosting cakes and cupcakes:

  • Use it like any other frosting on cakes and cupcakes – either spread it on with a knife or put in a piping bag. You can pipe sky-high mounds and it will hold its form, as pictured on Vanilla Cupcakes in this post.
  • See notes for storage / make ahead.

Recipe Notes:

1. Sugar – caster/superfine ok too. 1 cup sugar yields a sweet frosting but not overly sweet like buttercream which uses about 2.5 – 3 cups equivalent. Can reduce to as little as 1/2 cup – then this really does taste like a lightly sweetened whipped cream!
 2. Whiteness – it will depend on the colour of your butter. Economical butter tends to be more yellow so the frosting will have an off white colour. European butters (such as Lurpak) are paler so the frosting will be closer to white. The butter whipping stage will lighten the colour of the butter.
Whitening – if you really want pure white, you can purchase a frosting whitener like this one from Wilton and also get clear imitation vanilla essence but the flavour isn’t as good and pure as vanilla extract.
The other trick is to add tiny drops of blue or purple into the frosting. These colours are opposite yellow on the colour wheel so they will offset the yellow tinge. For liquid colouring, use a tiny drop at a time. For gel (more intense), dip a toothpick in and wipe onto the frosting surface.
Frosting can also be tinted – it’s like a really fluffy buttercream, so anything you can do to colour / flavour buttercream, you can do with this frosting!
3. Softened Butter – this is butter that is at 17°C/63°F, which is cooler than you might expect! It should be soft enough that it is pliable so when you poke it, it leaves an indent. But still cool enough so that you don’t end up with shiny grease your your finger.
If your butter gets too soft, the frosting will be too sloppy, the same problem you’d run into with any butter based frosting like buttercream frosting.
4. Storage & make ahead:
  • This frosting is best used straight after making. 
  • On cooler days (22C/71F or so), frosted cakes, cupcakes etc can stay out on the counter.
  • On warmer days, it will need to be refrigerated – the butter is what will make the frosting droop. Take out of fridge 1 – 1.5 hrs before serving to bring so the frosting can soften (it firms up in the fridge due to the butter).
  • The flour milk roux can be made the day before and refrigerated overnight, but then take it out of the fridge 1 hour prior to take the chill out of it, you want it at room temperature.
  • Freezing – up to 3 months, thaw overnight in the fridge
5. Recipe source: I cannot remember where I first obtained this recipe (it was over 10 years ago) but I cross checked my usual recipe resources before publishing it and this recipe uses the same quantities as the New York Times Ermine Frosting, but a slightly different method. (Note: that’s a paid resource though you can view limited pages for free)
6. Nutrition assuming 12 servings (as pictured in post – tall swirls!). Frosting only.

Nutrition Information:

Calories: 224cal (11%)Carbohydrates: 20g (7%)Protein: 1g (2%)Fat: 16g (25%)Saturated Fat: 10g (63%)Cholesterol: 42mg (14%)Sodium: 11mgPotassium: 35mg (1%)Fiber: 1g (4%)Sugar: 18g (20%)Vitamin A: 502IU (10%)Calcium: 27mg (3%)Iron: 1mg (6%)
Keywords: Boiled Milk Frosting, Ermine Frosting, Fluffy Vanilla Frosting, Smooth Frosting
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1,324 Comments

  1. Katharine says

    July 13, 2021 at 7:03 pm

    5 stars
    This icing turns out silky smooth and a perfect sweetness! (even with caster sugar)

    I doubled the vanilla cupcake recipe so I doubled the icing, but I didn’t put as much on each cake so I have about half the batch in the freezer. I’m assuming it should keep well enough being basically sugar, butter & milk. Next time I think I’ll just make a single batch.

    I died it blue and it turned out lovely.

    Because I doubled it I think I needed to chill what I’m calling the sugar roux for longer as my icing was a little less stiff that I would have hoped after I’d mixed it all in, but after i realised my error I put the icing the fridge about 20 minutes longer, whipped it up some more afterwards and it was perfectly fine for piping.

    This recipe is a bit more fiddly that typical icing, but gosh it’s so lovely. I received compliments from family and friends of family who all loved the cupcakes.

    Thank you once again Nagi!

    Reply
    • Deborah Sargent says

      July 19, 2021 at 3:05 am

      This frosting was wonderful. By chance do you have one similar that IS cream cheese? My granddaughters graduation party is coming and I’m making Red Velvet, her absolute favorite. She definitely wants cream cheese and I figured we are so proud of her she deserves her small request. Thank you

      Reply
  2. Tia says

    July 13, 2021 at 1:38 pm

    Hey Nagi,
    I LOVE your site. Have made many recipes from it. Tried out the vanilla cupcakes today and this icing. My icing looks almost like it’s split. The butter was only just soft but I wonder if it was just a bit overdone. Would this be the case? I tried refrigerating the icing to see if that made a difference but maybe I didn’t leave it in there long enough. Can you help me avoid this in the future?

    Reply
  3. Teng says

    July 13, 2021 at 4:01 am

    Will reducing sugar to 1/2 cup affect the texture of the cream?

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      July 13, 2021 at 7:31 pm

      Hi Teng, yes it will ultimately change the texture. N x

      Reply
      • Christy says

        July 29, 2021 at 8:00 am

        If I reduce it to half cup will it not hold its shape?

        Reply
  4. Cheryl Hills says

    July 12, 2021 at 9:47 pm

    I have always had trouble with buttercream as my hands are too hot, they melt the buttercream. I tried this recipe and wow what a difference. This will be my go to recipe from now on 😁

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      July 13, 2021 at 7:52 pm

      Perfect Cheryl, I’m so glad you’ve now got a frosting that you can use! N x

      Reply
  5. Joanna Peterson says

    July 12, 2021 at 11:46 am

    5 stars
    This is delicious! I don’t care for sweet frostings and have always preferred whipped cream frosting, but it’s so temperamental. This held up really well.

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      July 12, 2021 at 9:03 pm

      That’s great to know Joanna!!! N x

      Reply
  6. Nicncrs says

    July 11, 2021 at 7:04 am

    My mom was making this over 50 years ago. She called it fake whip cream frosting

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      July 12, 2021 at 9:28 pm

      😂 I love it Nicncrs!! N x

      Reply
  7. Jodi says

    July 10, 2021 at 6:04 am

    Nagi, a question – if I want to flavour the icing with a few tablespoons of a fruit puree (making a blueberry layer cake), at what stage would I add the puree and anything I’d need to adjust on the liquids to maintain the thickness of the icing?

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      July 10, 2021 at 5:19 pm

      It’s going to affect the texture and make is softer Jodi, something I’d need to test sorry! N x

      Reply
      • Jodi Younger says

        July 14, 2021 at 10:48 am

        I tried it will tag you in some pics!

        Reply
  8. Jodi Younger says

    July 9, 2021 at 2:53 am

    5 stars
    This icing is the perfect level of sweetness to enhance the cake and not overwhelm it. Was a five star hit with multiple folks who have enjoyed it! It also pipes way easier than a traditional American buttercream and it holds dye better than a French or Italian buttercream.

    Nagi, a question – if I want to flavour the icing with a few tablespoons of a fruit puree (making a blueberry layer cake), at what stage would I add the puree and anything I’d need to adjust on the liquids to maintain the thickness of the icing?

    Reply
  9. Ailish Hamilton says

    July 8, 2021 at 9:01 pm

    Hi i love this icing but sometimes i struggle to make the icing crisp when i pipe and can be quite wet or soft looking, it isnt runny or liquid like so im not sure what i am doing wrong? i try to put the icing in the fridge or the roux overnight hoping it would be a bit more solid which sometimes works but it never looks as professional as the photo you have.

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    • Nagi says

      July 9, 2021 at 2:35 pm

      Hi Ailish, sorry you’re having issues here – are you using the metric measurements? Sounds like the ratios you’re using may be out or the roux needs to cook a little longer. N x

      Reply
    • Jodi says

      July 9, 2021 at 2:56 am

      Ailish, try cooking the roux for a little longer until it is quite solid (more like toothpaste thickness than a custard thickness). I do that with it because I am often adding colour to it which can make it a bit looser. Pipes perfectly! Also make sure the roux is fully cooled to room temperature (once I added it too warm and it did not whip up as nicely).

      Reply
  10. Wendy says

    July 6, 2021 at 9:54 pm

    5 stars
    I tried your frosting and it was really nice. I used it to teach my daughters how to make decorations on the the cake and on a mat.

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      July 7, 2021 at 9:35 am

      Oh that’s lovely Wendy!! N x

      Reply
  11. Finza says

    July 3, 2021 at 5:47 am

    just came across this recipe and i would love to try it! it looks so light and fluffy however every time i make buttercream, my butter doesn’t get fluffy. is there anything i’m doing wrong? please help😬

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      July 3, 2021 at 4:26 pm

      Hi Finza, what are you using to beat it? Is it definitely softened? N x

      Reply
  12. Simone says

    June 30, 2021 at 7:58 pm

    Would love to try this for my baby’s 1st birthday smash cake. Would this work with non-dairy milk?

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      July 1, 2021 at 12:58 pm

      Hi Simone, the butter would also need to be substituted for a non dairy alternative which will affect the texture and taste unfortunately. N x

      Reply
      • Simone says

        July 1, 2021 at 10:01 pm

        Thank you for the reply! Butter is actually ok (he eats cheese), he just hasn’t had cows milk yet. I looked online and I think I’m going to try a half or quarter batch with almond milk and hope it’s not too bitter.

        Reply
  13. Susie says

    June 30, 2021 at 6:46 pm

    5 stars
    Yup, made this a few times now without any problems, and this recipe is wonderful, I hate the grainy texture of most buttercream icing, love how you can adjust sweetness to taste so it doesn’t overpower the baked goodies I make, winner!

    Reply
  14. Bev says

    June 30, 2021 at 5:32 am

    5 stars
    I have been looking for this recipe for years!!! I used to make it for the kids when they were little. I’ve moved a few times in the last 50 years and lost this recipe. Thanks for bringing back a forgotten and tasty part of my life.

    Reply
  15. Mandy M says

    June 27, 2021 at 7:49 pm

    5 stars
    The BEST tasting cupcake and frosting recipe I have ever come across…love that sugar in frosting can be adjusted to taste- so many of our friends and family find it traditionally too sweet. Thanks for sharing!

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      June 28, 2021 at 2:13 pm

      You’re so welcome Mandy!! N x

      Reply
  16. Julie says

    June 26, 2021 at 8:20 am

    Hi Nagi,
    This sounds like fluffy creamy heaven! I’m wondering can I make this, then use to layer and cover an 8” 4 tier cake and store it in the fridge overnight. Until needed for my nephews baptism the following day. My sil has asked I make the cake but they don’t like overkill buttercream and so this recipe sounds perfect.
    Thank you

    Reply
    • Julie says

      June 29, 2021 at 11:21 am

      Oh and I wonder what it is like using edible gold leaf?
      I may just need to do a trial run and see how all these elements work 🤔

      Reply
  17. Natalie says

    June 26, 2021 at 7:41 am

    5 stars
    My family all loved this recipe, it is the perfect icing. Now I need to make cupcakes for my daughter and it’s going to be a heatwave. I was going to make, decorate and freeze. Will this icing do okay with that if I defrost them before serving?

    Reply
  18. Aubry says

    June 26, 2021 at 1:17 am

    Help! I did everything as instructed and my frosting is runny! Slightly runnier than toothpaste…definitely not pipeable. If there’s anything I did wrong, possibly my roux was a little bit too warm. But did receive for over 30 minutes. Is there anything I can do to save it!? I made a double batch for my kids birthday tomorrow.

    Reply
  19. Yvonne says

    June 24, 2021 at 12:37 pm

    Hello! I haven’t made this frosting yet but I’ll do it soon…for sure. It looks very tempting.
    Just one question: since it has milk in it, can I use this frosting as a base for cake that will be covered with fondant?
    I like that it’s less sweet than buttercream.
    Thank You.

    Reply
    • Nagi says

      June 24, 2021 at 6:43 pm

      Hi Yvonne, it isn’t as stable as buttercream so it really depends on the weather where you are and how big/heavy the cake will be. N x

      Reply
  20. Alison says

    June 21, 2021 at 9:06 pm

    5 stars
    My god! At first I looked at the ingredients for this frosting and thought there’s no way this could be nice but said I would make it anyway and just see… I will never make frosting any other way ever again. This is the nicest I have ever tasted and I haven’t stopped talking about it since. It’s so silky and light it tastes like ice-cream! Absolutely loved it and will be making again this weekend!

    Reply
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